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Invitado_tr 31-12-2013 09:51

Re: Weather routing a lo barato
 
Hi maitai,

I got your files and I'll update the translation as soon as possible. But give me some time, please.

Take care,
Tropelio

maitai 31-12-2013 09:55

Re: Weather routing a lo barato
 
:brindis:

Super, we will wait for you to release then. Many thanks.

Capitanlanmar 31-12-2013 10:19

Re: Weather routing a lo barato
 
Hi Matai,
Any comments on the new version features?
Thanks.

kuovadix 31-12-2013 10:38

Re: Weather routing a lo barato
 
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Originalmente publicado por pinguino (Mensaje 1402675)
Doy fe de que en Linux funciona.:pirata::pirata::pirata:

Esto está que arde. Es una prueba de la fuerza del soft libre. La combinación del trabajo del equipo de Zygrib con la de qtVlm. Genial.

Funcionando en Ubuntu 12.10 gnome-shell Remix.

Y como lo has instalado? por consola o con el synaptic? y otra ayudita, en que parte de la página lo has encontrado para linux? yo no he mirado mucho pero así de bote pronto no lo he sabido ver.

maitai 31-12-2013 11:10

Re: Weather routing a lo barato
 
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Originalmente publicado por Capitanlanmar (Mensaje 1591721)
Hi Matai,
Any comments on the new version features?
Thanks.

You can find the tickets here:

Version 3.4.4: http://sourceforge.net/p/qtvlm/featu...estone/v3.4.4/

Version 3.4.3: http://sourceforge.net/p/qtvlm/featu...estone/v3.4.3/

Version 3.4.2: http://sourceforge.net/p/qtvlm/featu...estone/v3.4.2/

... 31-12-2013 12:09

Re: Weather routing a lo barato
 
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Originalmente publicado por kuovadix (Mensaje 1591729)
Y como lo has instalado? por consola o con el synaptic? y otra ayudita, en que parte de la página lo has encontrado para linux? yo no he mirado mucho pero así de bote pronto no lo he sabido ver.

Yo lo instale compilandolo desde el código fuente. Hay en algún mensaje de este hilo instrucciones de como hacerlo.

Pero ahora con Ubuntu-gnome 14:04 me funciona un repositorio que no recuerdo de donde diablos lo saqué.

Creo que con saucy (13:10) también rula. Es este:

http://doc.hausser.ch/debpackages ubuntu-dha saucy

Mételo e intenta buscarlo tal vez te funcione.

A mi me entra la version 3.4-3-patch3

Invitado_tr 31-12-2013 12:27

Re: Weather routing a lo barato
 
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Originalmente publicado por maitai (Mensaje 1591718)
:brindis:

Super, we will wait for you to release then. Many thanks.

Ok. I hope to finish before the end of this year! So I think I'll send you the files this afternoon.

patxikiter 31-12-2013 14:17

Re: Weather routing a lo barato
 
hola, a alguno le funciona el programa con el GPS, yo no soy capaz. :nosabo:
Feliz año a todos

Invitado_tr 31-12-2013 15:32

Re: Weather routing a lo barato
 
Hello again maitai,

Please, check your email. I have already send you the updated Spanish translation.

It is possible that some terms have not been properly translated since I would need to know the exact context where they are used in order to choose their proper meaning. However, I hope that those will be exceptions that we'll be able to correct in future versions of the program.

Thanks a lot for your nice program and happy new year,
Tropelio.

Para los usuarios que usan el español: la traducción puede contener errores pues algunos términos necesitan el contexto exacto en el que se usan para elegir el significado preciso. Si alguien descubre alguno de estos errores por favor que me lo indique con el fin de corregirlo en futuras versiones del programa.

maitai 03-01-2014 18:45

Re: Weather routing a lo barato
 
Thanks Tropellio,

The release is delayed a bit due to some issues we have with Mac/OS, but normally it's a matter of days.

josera 05-01-2014 21:10

Re: Weather routing a lo barato
 
Esperaremos a verlo y yo ya me he apuntado a un cursillo acelerado para descargarlo :nosabo:

Gracias Tropelio

juburgui 06-01-2014 02:00

Re: Weather routing a lo barato
 
Gracias :brindis::brindis:

maitai 09-02-2014 08:49

Re: Weather routing a lo barato
 
Hello all,

A new qtVlm version has been released, namely 3.4.4-patch1

You can find a list of main modifications here: http://sourceforge.net/p/qtvlm/featu...estone/v3.4.4/

Enjoy and fair winds to all

Cedemont 09-02-2014 09:27

Re: Weather routing a lo barato
 
Cita:

Originalmente publicado por maitai (Mensaje 1609507)
Hello all,

A new qtVlm version has been released, namely 3.4.4-patch1

You can find a list of main modifications here: http://sourceforge.net/p/qtvlm/featu...estone/v3.4.4/

Enjoy and fair winds to all

And could you be so kind giving to us the right link for downloading? And second question, if we got the old version...do we have to install or reinstall?

Thanks a lot, it´s a great software!!!

:brindis:

maitai 09-02-2014 09:48

Re: Weather routing a lo barato
 
As usual the installation files are here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/qtvlm/

You can install the new version over the old one, but you will loose all your settings (because the format of settings has changed in the new release).

Tupac A. 09-02-2014 16:46

Re: Weather routing a lo barato
 
No habia descubierto esto. Interesantisimo.
Gracias, Tropelio.
Thank you, Maitai.

maitai 13-03-2015 11:19

Re: Weather routing a lo barato
 
FYI, after many months of work, qtVlm is now also available on Android (google playstore) :)

Bob 13-03-2015 11:26

Re: Weather routing a lo barato
 
Que chulo, nunca había abierto este hilo, me encanta el programa. Gracias :brindis:

maitai 25-03-2015 07:27

Re: Weather routing a lo barato
 
qtVlm 5.0.12 has been released for Android, Mac/OS, Windows and Linux.

Installation for Linux is now made through an installation package.

Many changes, including a better and faster routing module, anchor alarm, etc.

Fair winds to all
Philippe.

... 25-03-2015 10:27

Re: Weather routing a lo barato
 
Cita:

Originalmente publicado por maitai (Mensaje 1770701)
qtVlm 5.0.12 has been released for Android, Mac/OS, Windows and Linux.

Installation for Linux is now made through an installation package.

Many changes, including a better and faster routing module, anchor alarm, etc.

Fair winds to all
Philippe.

Lo siento pero el paquete de Linux no me funcionó. Tuve que compilarlo por mi mismo para Ubuntu 15.04. Pero la versión no es la actual.

Gracias de todos modos.

I 'm sorry but the Linux package don't worked for me. I had to build it by myself for Ubuntu vivid 15.04, but...... It says (downloaded from svn://svn.code.sf.net/p/qtvlm/code/trunk) ist version 3.4-4-patch1+.:confused:

Where is the source code for 5.0.12?:nosabo:

Thanks anyway. Merci quand même.

maitai 25-03-2015 10:32

Re: Weather routing a lo barato
 
Hello,

We do not publish our sources anymore, because it also contains all our work for the Android version which we don't want to make public.

We will see what we can do for your linux version, and come back to you ;)

... 25-03-2015 10:38

Re: Weather routing a lo barato
 
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Originalmente publicado por maitai (Mensaje 1770762)
Hello,

We do not publish our sources anymore, because it also contains all our work for the Android version which we don't want to make public.

We will see what we can do for your linux version, and come back to you ;)

So..... now it is not open source anymore?:santo:

Entonces... ¿ya no es de código abierto?

Invitado_tr 25-03-2015 10:42

Re: Weather routing a lo barato
 
Pues eso parece, Sr. pinguino, ya no es open source any more. Y no me gusta nada como caza la perrita, como decía mi tía Clementina, que era una mujer muy sabia: resulta que algunos colaboramos con ese programa precisamente porque era código abierto. En mi caso, colaboré traduciéndolo al español. Y ahora resulta que ya no es de código abierto. No es una polítca aceptable esta. Si un programa empieza abierto y en él colabora gente desinteresadamente, debe permanecer abierto.

En fin, lamentable.

Tropelio

... 25-03-2015 10:52

Re: Weather routing a lo barato
 
Es cierto Tropelio. Aún así hay que agradecerle a Philippe que al menos lo pone a nuestra disposición gratuitamente.:gracias:

El problema es, como siempre, que con el código cerrado nos volvemos esclavos del que crea los binarios.:confused:

Este caso es un ejemplo clarísimo pues el binario cedido no me funciona y eso hace que quede en desventaja frente a otros usuarios que si lo pueden disfrutar.

Ok, Philippe se ofrece a echarme una mano, y se agradece. Pero mientras el no mueva ficha yo seguiré atrapado en la antigua versión. Y el tendrá que ir entregándome compilaciones varias hasta dar (o no) con la que me funciona. Justo el tipo de cosas de las que uno prefiere huir.

También es cierto que todo el mundo tiene derecho a monetizar sus creaciones. Pero si es el caso de que otros han colaborado estaría bien compartir algo esos resultados... por un sentido de la justicia.

maitai 25-03-2015 10:52

Re: Weather routing a lo barato
 
Please note that the PC versions are still 100% free. Porting to Android was a huge task, that was not free too. It's not open-source anymore due to that. The 344 version is still open-source.

I will remove the spanish translation from the 5.0 serie, no problem.

Invitado_tr 25-03-2015 11:00

Re: Weather routing a lo barato
 
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Originalmente publicado por maitai (Mensaje 1770778)
Please note that the PC versions are still 100% free. Porting to Android was a huge task, that was not free too. It's not open-source anymore due to that. The 344 version is still open-source.

I will remove the spanish translation from the 5.0 serie, no problem.

No maitai, that is NOT enough. It is not fair play what you have done. But I do not want to discuss this issue any further.

Tropelio

... 25-03-2015 12:15

Re: Weather routing a lo barato
 
Cita:

Originalmente publicado por maitai (Mensaje 1770762)
Hello,

We do not publish our sources anymore, because it also contains all our work for the Android version which we don't want to make public.

We will see what we can do for your linux version, and come back to you ;)

I try it again in 32 bit Ubuntu vivid, and it works ok. It seems that the issue is 64 bit versión.:santo:

Capitanlanmar 25-03-2015 12:25

Re: Weather routing a lo barato
 
With all my respect to your work, and my best wishes for your success on the android program, I agree a 100% with Tropelio. I don't want to see things happening this way. Looks like "opensource" image is used as a marketing strategy to get a good user base, and then after a while...

Start from the beginning as commercial software or shareware and do what you want with it.

The problem is that I would have never spent time learning to use your program.

You have "used" us as beta testers and in some case (as tropelio) as collaborators without our consent for a commercial venture. Simply not fair.
Good luck. I'm starting to like the Opencpn weather routing plugin.

Invitado_tr 25-03-2015 12:33

Re: Weather routing a lo barato
 
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Originalmente publicado por Capitanlanmar (Mensaje 1770818)
With all my respect to your work, and my best wishes for your success on the android program, I agree a 100% with Tropelio. I don't want to see things happening this way. Looks like "opensource" image is used as a marketing strategy to get a good user base, and then after a while...

Start from the beginning as commercial software or shareware and do what you want with it.

The problem is that I would have never spent time learning to use your program.

You have "used" us as beta testers and in some case (as tropelio) as collaborators without our consent for a commercial venture. Simply not fair.
Good luck. I'm starting to like the Opencpn weather routing plugin.

It could be said louder, but not clearer....

Tropelio

... 25-03-2015 12:44

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It seems to be still under GPLv2.:nosabo:

Maybe I'm wrong?

maitai 25-03-2015 12:45

Re: Weather routing a lo barato
 
Sorry that you feel like that.

I didn't use anyone, and the idea of the spanish translation was not mine, I was just trying to help not to fool anyone.

I have removed the spanish translation from the package...

qtVlm 5 might return to open source one day, but not now.

qtVlm 3.4.4 is open source... It all depend on people willing to continue to develop it, as it should.

I didn't expect that posting to propose a free product would end up in being treated like that.... anyway.

@pinguino we will post a 64bits package as soon as possible.

Fair winds to all.
Philippe.

sailoog.com 25-03-2015 13:27

Re: Weather routing a lo barato
 
Cita:

Originalmente publicado por maitai (Mensaje 1770828)
Sorry that you feel like that.

I didn't use anyone, and the idea of the spanish translation was not mine, I was just trying to help not to fool anyone.

I have removed the spanish translation from the package...

qtVlm 5 might return to open source one day, but not now.

qtVlm 3.4.4 is open source... It all depend on people willing to continue to develop it, as it should.

I didn't expect that posting to propose a free product would end up in being treated like that.... anyway.

@pinguino we will post a 64bits package as soon as possible.

Fair winds to all.
Philippe.

I dont like your decision but you are in your right to do it. However I think it is a big mistake because you could find some ways to monetize your work keeping it opened instead of closing it. As you know, free software does not always means "gratis" software.

It is a pity but anyway I wish you luck in your new field. I think proprietary software is not as rewarding as free software in any case.

I am working in a project involving zyGrib and I would like to know if you are planning to turn it into proprietary software too in order to start searching alternatives. Thanks.

Empecinado 02-06-2015 15:04

Re: Weather routing a lo barato
 
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Originalmente publicado por sailoog.com (Mensaje 1770851)
I dont like your decision but you are in your right to do it. However I think it is a big mistake because you could find some ways to monetize your work keeping it opened instead of closing it. As you know, free software does not always means "gratis" software.

It is a pity but anyway I wish you luck in your new field. I think proprietary software is not as rewarding as free software in any case.

I am working in a project involving zyGrib and I would like to know if you are planning to turn it into proprietary software too in order to start searching alternatives. Thanks.

Actually, that is completely wrong... he is not in his right to do so.

Once a software has a license, everybody is legally bound to adhere to the rules specified by it. In the case of GPLv2 here is a summary :

https://tldrlegal.com/license/gnu-ge...lic-license-v2

Short answer:

* If version 3.X was GPLv2 then version 5.X is GPLv2 by defaullt. You are not allowed to sublicense, unlicense the GPL license. It's sticky!
* Commercialization is allowed. Meaning you can distribute binary packages and charge for it. No problem there. Free as in fredoom, not free beer.
* Disclosing the source is mandatory. This means that whenever you make a binary distribution available (free or paid) you are bound by the GPL license to hand over the code with it.
* Anybody can grab that source and modify/distribute it as long as it recognizes the source of it.

So it's a pitty that you are "close sourcing" the code for it, as you are not allowed to do so.

You gave it away to the world, sorry if you regret that. :p

Few, this is a lovely post to start off in a new forum!

Best Regards everybody!


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