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Xinanhook 04-01-2017 17:36

Una belleza... International 8-meter class - Defender
 
Una belleza! :pirata:


El Defender nuevo International 8-meter class.
Construido según los planos de 1931 de William Fife III, en Wooden Boatworks, en Greenport NY.
Touchwood ha suministrado el cedro amarillo de Alaska, para la tablazón del casco y la cubierta.

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manganegra 04-01-2017 19:04

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Originalmente publicado por Xinanhook (Mensaje 1972282)
Una belleza! :pirata:


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El Defender nuevo International 8-meter class.
Construido según los planos de 1931 de William Fife III, en Wooden Boatworks, en Greenport NY.
Touchwood ha suministrado el cedro amarillo de Alaska, para la tablazón del casco y la cubierta.

:brindis:

joe cófrade... cuelgas unas fotos que son pornografía pura... no hay manera, se queda uno babeando con la foto.. luego al youtuve a buscar si hay algún video... esto es un sin vivir... a ver si me dan el alta de una vez joe...
salud :brindis:

SpitfireAntonio 04-01-2017 19:21

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Bonita foto y muy bien documentada con sus enlaces,,,agradecido,,,,,,también me gusta la nave donde lo construyen,cuchillos,vigas y refuerzos en madera,añejo a tope.

Adrianfd 04-01-2017 19:31

Re: Una belleza... International 8-meter class - Defender
 
Qué preciosidad!

Xinanhook 04-01-2017 19:57

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Originalmente publicado por manganegra (Mensaje 1972303)
joe cófrade... cuelgas unas fotos que son pornografía pura... no hay manera, se queda uno babeando con la foto.. luego al youtuve a buscar si hay algún video... esto es un sin vivir... a ver si me dan el alta de una vez joe...
salud :brindis:

Estimado manganegra como sabes no tengo remedio y las bellezas me pierden! :cunao:
Ronsitos añejos! :brindis:

Xinanhook 05-01-2017 01:13

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Algunos datos más de esta obra de arte... :adoracion:

DEFENDER BUILT BY WOODEN BOATWORKS
Wooden Boatworks, Inc. is in the process of scratch building the second of two 8-Meter Class replicas to Wm. Fife III’s 1930 design for Invader. This hull, named Defender, is being built as faithfully as possible to the specs, scantlings and methods of the original. Lofted from the original drawings, the hull measures 48’2” on deck, with a beam of 8’6”, and displacing 18,500 lbs. The boat is being built with a White Oak backbone, laminated Cherry and steam bent Oak frames, planking and deck of Alaskan Yellow Cedar, with all Cherry brightwork. The spars and rig have been redesigned by Naval Architect Theo Rye to stay competitive with the fleet of classic yachts she will be racing against in Oyster Bay, NY. Project Manager Ben Bentley heads a six man team on the hull, while the spars are being built by Taylor Allen’s Rockport Marine. Defender will be launched in May 2017 on the railway at Hanff’s Boatyard in Greenport.

Wooden Boatworks, Inc. specializes in crafting new builds & replicas, as well as restoration, repair & maintenance of Golden Age era sail and power yachts. Cofounders Donn Costanzo and Bruce Wahl have a deep respect and appreciation for the iconic yacht designers; William Fife III, Nathanael Herreshoff, and Gilbert Monroe Smith, among others. Costanzo and Wahl embrace an ethos defined by a commitment to artistry, craftsmanship and traditional materials and methods. The Wooden Boatworks’ team is comprised of multi-disciplined, artisan builders operating three marine and manufacturing facilities on Long Island’s North Fork.



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Knopfler 05-01-2017 07:32

Una belleza... International 8-meter class - Defender
 
Precioso. He estado babeando un buen rato :adoracion:

Xinanhook 05-01-2017 12:01

Respuesta: Una belleza... International 8-meter class - Defender
 
Un poco de historia... Invader II


Replica of a Lost Fife


In July of 2015, Wooden Boatworks, Inc., of Greenport, New York, launched a new plane-on-frame William Fife III 8-M. The yacht is named Invader, commissioned by Brian Hunt Lawrence of New York City and Oyster Bay, New York. Invader is 48 ft. 2 in. on deck. She carries a 30 ft. 8 in. waterline, an 8 ft. 6 in. beam, and a 6 ft. 6 in. draft, well representing a class with great international appeal in the first part of the last century. 8-Meters were, and still are, a competitive racing class and they formed an Olympic class from 1908 to 1936.


This contemporary Invader was constructed as a historical new-build of a 1930s era 8-Meter called Invader II, which match-raced for the Canadian team in the 1932 Canada's Cup. This competition was the freshwater equivalent of the America's Cup, a decades-long rivalry between the Royal Canadian Yacht Club and the Rochester Yacht Club on Lake Ontario. Although the Canadians fought valiantly for over 50 years, the Rochester Yacht Club stubbornly retained the Canada's Cup from 1903 to 1954.


After again losing the 1930 Canada's Cup to the American defender, a Fife-designed 8-Meter named Quest, RCYC Commodore George Gooderham commissioned the Scottish designer to create Invader II. Determined to win back the Cup from the Americans with a dose of their own Fife medicine, this Canadian 8-Meter yacht was christened Invader II in honor of the first Invader, Gooderham's yacht that led the Royal Canadian Yacht Club to their former victory in 1901.


By 1930, 8-Meters designed by William Fife III dominated the class. He designed over fifty of them under three evolving racing rules. Invader II was the last 8-Meter Fife designed under the second rule. As an interesting side note to the 1932 competition, Invader II sailed against—and lost to— the American boat Conewago, designed by a young American making a big splash on the racing circuit, Olin Stephens. The American public loved the Eights as well; according to local newspaper clippings of the era, over twenty thousand spectators assembled to watch the battle for the 1932 Canada's Cup.


Brian Hunt Lawrence, of the New York Yacht Club, has dedicated himself to preserving important classics. One of his favorites is William Fife III's personal yacht Clio, built in 1921. Clio is 46 ft. with a waterline length of 30 ft., and is one of his very early Bermuda-rigged sloops. Known then as Sheevra, Donn Costanzo, now co-owner of Wooden Boatworks, rebuilt the boat entirely with Jeff Law and Olive Adzhead in 1983, in concert with Cantieri Navale dell'Argentario in Italy.


When Lawrence's love of match racing united with his love of Fife classics, he began a search for an original 8-Meter for restoration. Naturally, he turned to Donn Costanzo and Bruce Wahl of Wooden Boatworks. Besides Clio, Donn Costanzo has restored and raced several other Fifes in Europe, so he is well-versed in Fife design and construction.


Wooden Boatworks specializes in restorations as well as recreating newly built replicas of older yachts. In this way, the original may remain an artifact, while a robust, new boat is created for sailing. Their new and restored work can be viewed by visiting the shop's website at woodenboatworks.com. In some cases, depending on the planned use of a yacht, Wooden Boatworks feels that a historical replica makes more sense than a full restoration.


This was the case with the search for an 8-Meter for Brian Hunt Lawrence. After trying to locate the right boat on several continents, it turned out that 8-Meters enjoyed such an astounding resurgence in popularity, there remained no more viable original candidates left to restore. So what began as a quest for a historical restoration morphed into a historical reconstruction. This was perhaps an even greater undertaking than the restoration of an existing boat would have been.

Invader II made a perfect candidate for a reconstruction because she no longer existed, having run into a tug and tow line at night on the Hudson River and sunk in two hundred twenty-five feet of water. She enjoyed an unparalleled provenance, a well-documented history, and a vibrant racing career. Most importantly, Invader II was a Fife with excellent racing characteristics—one worthy of recreating.


Building a modern wooden boat to historical standards is challenging enough. Meeting the 8-Meter racing class specifications requires even further demands. Building as close to the original plank-on-frame construction plans in the Fife method, yet creating a boat fully compliant to the rule, meant extreme devotion to historical plans and drawings, construction details and materials, distribution of weight throughout the vessel, and of rig dimensions. Duncan Walker at Fairlie Yachts in Hamble assembled her construction plans and drawings. Using the Invader II plans, naval architect Theo Rye prepared a table of offsets. The Wooden Boatworks team lofted the lines, which were then used to create full-sized AutoCAD construction drawings for cutting materials on the shop floor.


In this case, the shop floor is in a cavernous potato barn in eastern Long Island, an agricultural area known more for growing wine grapes than for building beautiful yachts. Wooden Boatworks has two facilities. One is on the water in Greenport, with several sheds and shops, plus two marine railways for classic yacht maintenance and repairs. The other is the expansive barn complex for new builds. The barn also houses Wooden Boatworks' extensive collection of vintage Merriman Brothers, Wilcox Crittenden, and Perko marine hardware—much of it never-used old stock—and over 60,000 board feet of seasoned, sustainably harvested lumber suitable for yacht building and repair.


Still, assembling materials for an accurate historical reconstruction is challenging. In today's world, construction timber comparable to a 1930s era Fife simply does not exist. Although materials for the new Invader were collected for years, Costanzo and Wahl had to reach out to the best sources in America. New England Naval Timbers in Cornwall, Connecticut, located an extraordinary 46-foot white oak at the Thomas Cole Museum in Catskill, New York. The 30-inch diameter tree was milled for the 25 ft. by 2 ft. keel stock. The original Invader II had 88 pairs of grown timber frames.


A modern boat builder could save materials for a lifetime and still not have enough grown frames to build a 48-footer, so Wooden Boatworks' construction team substituted the best modern equivalent—laminated cherry—for the grown timber primary frames. Then, as in the Fife method, they steam-bent two white oak frames between each laminated cherry frame.


Another divergence from the original design is the floor plates. William Fife used galvanized floor plates, whereas Wooden Boatworks chose silicon bronze plates and strap floors, which were fabricated by Kristian Iglesias of of Kai Design in Greenport. The lead keel itself was molded by Mars Metals of Burlington, Ontario, and trucked to Long Island. Invader is planked with Alaskan yellow cedar and she is copper riveted.


Continúa... *_*

Xinanhook 05-01-2017 12:53

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Invader's decks are Alaskan yellow cedar, for a subtle, golden blond tone that pairs beautifully with her varnished, dovetailed cherry cabin, covering boards, and toe rails. Setting off her decks and cherry rails is a tasteful marriage of traditional bronze and stainless steel deck hardware. Wooden Boatworks' large vintage hardware collection, plus customized details, made Invader's authenticity possible. Carrying the combination stainless and bronze theme elsewhere throughout the deck, stainless rails—instead of wood as Fife would have done—were positioned on the fore and after decks with bronze eyes.


The tiller is a work of art and can be described as no less than deck jewelry. Fife's original tillers were usually iron pipes covered in canvas, then painted. Wooden Boatworks chose to have the tiller made of highly polished 316 stainless steel, and mounted it uncovered. Simon Grillet, who worked with Costanzo on Kentra and other Fife rebuilds, fashioned Invader's tiller in the Fife shape, adding an ebony wood handle grip, finished with a turned polished bronze end cap. The end result completes a harmonious and elegant mixture of bronze and stainless fittings.
Edradour 10 Year Old Distillery Edition

The rig and sail plan were designed by Theo Rye (Classic Boat magazine's Technical Editor), very closely to yacht designer George Cuthbertson's mid-1950s modifications. Rockport Marine in Maine built the Sitka spruce 66 ft. mast and boom. Maloney Marine Rigging of Southport, Maine, fabricated the standing rod rigging.


Invader's sails are Dacron cross-cut sails to conform to the Neptune Trophy specifications in the 8-Meter Class. They were built by North Sails. The headsails are hanked on to a Bartels Roller Furling system which keeps the furling mechanism below decks to preserve the classic look. At the owner's request, related to enjoying the yacht in often light-air conditions of her home port, Oyster Bay, New York, the boat flies a masthead asymmetrical spinnaker, and also has a Code Zero on a furler. A fractional symmetrical spinnaker, which will meet the Neptune Trophy specifications, will be added for this upcoming summer.

Invader didn't compete against other 8-Meters in her first season. She does perform beautifully, however. Her helm is very sensitive, light to the touch, and balances extremely well. She accelerates quickly out of tacks and is very sea kindly in following seas. In all, Invader exceeds expectations, moving along beautifully in very light air and, of course, points well; all expected of a 1930s racing machine.

Invader's interior is completely varnished. Spartan but elegant, Costanzo describes it as "a combination of a lot of Fife trademark signatures from many of his boats." These include Fife style fiddles, raised panelled doors, and open straightforward simple styling. Costanzo compiled years of experience on many Fifes to incorporate them into Invader's interior. Deep green leather seat cushions with a shallow, leather button tuck, "for a sporting look," explains Costanzo, were made by Perry's Upholstery, a Long Island company specializing in antique and classic yachts.


Wooden Boatworks placed a 16 horsepower Beta diesel in Invader, with a Danish two-bladed folding propeller, offset to port. The weight of the engine, fuel tank, exhaust, and associated controls and piping was calculated ahead of time so lead could be subtracted from the ballast keel to compensate. Invader came to rest beautifully on her lines when launched.


Building this type of yacht requires intense dedication to yachting history and depth of research. Brian Hunt Lawrence and Wooden Boatworks share the common belief that restoring yachts and building historic new-builds perpetuate skills and dedication to fine craftsmanship.


Whether restoring an original yacht or building a historic replica, they keep history alive and promote an important art form. That said, it seems natural that another 8-Meter would follow.


Defender, an exact sister to Invader, was also commissioned by Brian Hunt Lawrence. Defender is on the construction floor at Wooden Boatworks at this writing, due to launch in the spring of 2017. When completed next year, the two sisters will be sailed against each other in Oyster Bay, New York, in the true match racing tradition.


The only difference between Invader and Defender will be their tillers. Grillet made the handle grip on the tiller for Invader in ebony; black. The handle on Defender will be holly; white. Pleased with this notion, Costanzo adds, "That should be the only way to tell them apart."


Deciphering Fife's Calculations From His Original Notebook
Text and Drawings by THEO RYE, Technical Editor

My involvement with what became the Invader project started when Donn Costanzo of Wooden Boatworks spoke to me at the 2013 Fife Regatta; a week which saw, among other highlights, two of Fife's prettiest Bermudan-rigged yachts from the 1930s, Latifa and Saskia, racing together. Donn had a client looking for an untouched, original, late 2nd or 3rd International Rule 8-Meter to restore; a well-trodden quest. In the end, we concluded there was nothing suitable on (or off) the market; they had all already been restored, heavily modified, or lost; it seems that the days of "barn finds" of original classics are fast receding.



When attention turned to possible replicas though, there was a stand-out candidate in Invader II. Once Donn had negotiated for copies of the plans, we had a bit of homework to do, which involved corresponding with the ever-helpful John Lammerts van Bueren of the International Eight-Meter Association, followed by a trip to the Royal Canadian Yacht Club in Toronto. This was Invader's home for most of her life, and despite having been sunk in the mid-1960s, she was remembered well; not least by David Howard, an ex-Commodore of the RCYC and Invader's skipper from 1945 until 1953, and his friend George Cuthbertson (of C&C Yachts fame), who made changes to her rig.


We were also very kindly shown the impressive fleet of 8s at the RCYC; the owners of the 1929 Fife Quest copied her specification for us, and the archivist Beverly Darville was very helpful. A fine, fully detailed period model in the clubhouse was the finishing touch.



Continúa... *_*

Adrianfd 05-01-2017 13:07

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Menuda maravilla.. Para los que nos gusta la madera este hilo es una joya.

Gracias! :brindis:

Xinanhook 05-01-2017 13:33

Respuesta: Una belleza... International 8-meter class - Defender
 

The hull and keel calculations were an exercise in detective work; there was a small note on the lines plan that said, "Yacht reduced in loft by scale 0.9941"; a typical Fife tweak which resulted in some head scratching, especially deciphering which of the long-hand calculations of Fife from his original notebook applied to the pre- or post-tweak hull. Eventually it was straightened out; and armed with all that, and knowledge of Saskia and several other Fife 8s, we finally felt equipped to build an accurate replica.


One area that was always going to be different was the rig. Here the owner's wish was to respect the 8-M rules, but accommodate the possibility of short-handed day sailing, and also handicap racing in a mixed fleet on the notoriously light-winded Oyster Bay. We also had to parse that she had a reputation for firm weather helm in period, which made her the subject of several re-rigs (including one drawn in 1933 by the Starling Burgess & Boyd Donaldson partnership), and really came into her own after Cuthbertson's mods in the 1950s. The result is a rule-optimized Sitka spruce mast with rod-rigging, maximum hoist and foretriangle height, but set with aft-swept spreaders. That means the runners can be ignored much of the time except for adding a bit more headstay tension, or to stabilize the mast in a chop or higher winds.


With the furling headsail, cut deliberately higher at the clew than a typical 8-M full overlap genoa for visibility, she is proving easy (by 8-M standards). North Sails did their usual high-quality work, especially Hugh Beaton of the Toronto loft, who has a lot of experience with the class; and Rockport Marine executed a superb mast & rig package, including all the custom stainless hardware.


The masthead option for a Code Zero or asymmetric helps her out on the ultra-light days, and can be removed if she has to race under the 8-M rules. She hasn't been measured yet, but she was pretty well on her lines and we are optimistic that she would do so. The mast is positioned as originally, rather than shifting it aft (as many have done), so "J" is modest compared to some of the tweaked 8s out there, but we did push the forestay forwards as far as we could, allowing for the Bartel's furler under deck. In other words, reverting to a totally authentic rig as Fife drew it is perfectly possible, but in the meantime, we have a nicely balanced rig which meets the design criteria.



Continúa... *_*

Xinanhook 05-01-2017 13:46

Respuesta: Una belleza... International 8-meter class - Defender
 

Fotos Peter Brauné

Fin... :pirata:

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Dichuga 05-01-2017 14:05

Re: Una belleza... International 8-meter class - Defender
 
Que preciosidad, ¡Gracias!

¿Sabría decirme algún forero si hay algún astillero aquí en España que se dedique a algo parecido?

Una ronda para todos :brindis:

fenicio53 05-01-2017 14:12

Re: Una belleza... International 8-meter class - Defender
 
Bonito, estilizado, elegante. Me encanta, :adoracion::brindis:

Xinanhook 05-01-2017 14:15

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Originalmente publicado por Dichuga (Mensaje 1972529)
Que preciosidad, ¡Gracias!

¿Sabría decirme algún forero si hay algún astillero aquí en España que se dedique a algo parecido?

Una ronda para todos :brindis:

Saludos cofrade Dichuga, no hay de que! :pirata:
En Palamós está Niklaus Stoll. Un genio que también construye Fife's.


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Edu 05-01-2017 15:02

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Joooooder!

Yo hasta me pondría uno de esos en el salón de casa, así sin acabar.

:adoracion::adoracion:

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Edu

doctaton 05-01-2017 15:30

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Qué preciosidad, por favor! :adoracion:

Xinanhook 05-01-2017 17:07

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Originalmente publicado por Edu (Mensaje 1972542)
Joooooder!

Yo hasta me pondría uno de esos en el salón de casa, así sin acabar.

:adoracion::adoracion:

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Edu

Siempre nos quedará el Pen Duick... :o

Kit de maqueta en madera del cúter de regatas Pen Duick a escala 1/28. :D

Barcos Históricos: Pen Duick

La historia del Pen Duick es una curiosa historia de amor entre un hombre y su barco. El Pen Duick fue el velero en el que Eric Tabarly aprendió a navegar y que le acabó catapultando a la fama como excelente marino.

La historia de Eric Tabarly

Éste es uno de esos casos en que no se puede separar la biografía del hombre de la de su barco. Para ellos todo comenzó cuando Eric tenía 7 años y convenció inocentemente a su padre para rescatar un precioso barco que se encontraron mientras paseaban juntos. Entre ambos reconstruyeron el hermoso velero y lo hicieron navegable de nuevo hasta que el joven Eric decidió comprárselo a su padre. En él aprendió a navegar y en él participó en su primera regata, la famosa transat OSTAR desde Plymouth hasta Newport, cuyo lema definía perfectamente a nuestro protagonista: “Un hombre, un barco, un océano”.

A lo largo de su carrera Eric mandó construir hasta 6 “Pen Duicks”, mejorando cada vez más su diseño, hasta convertirlos en los veleros más veloces de su época. En ellos ganó todas las regatas en las que participaba, a veces con ventajas de hasta 11 días frente al segundo en llegar a meta.

La noche del 14 de junio de 1998 Eric desapareció cuando surcaba las aguas de Gales junto con su viejo amigo el “Pen Duick”, el mismo año en que el velero cumplía 100 años.

"Sin mí, no sería más que una ruina. Sin él mi vida habría sido, sin duda alguna, diferente".


La historia del Pen Duick


El precioso cúter de regatas fue diseñado por William Fife III y construido en 1898 por Gridiron & Marine Motor Works en Irlanda, para W.J.C. Cummins. Rápidamente empezó a adquirir fama como uno de los yates más veloces de aguas irlandesas, inglesas y escocesas. No fue hasta 1938 que pasó a manos del francés Guy Tabarly.

El velero más hermoso y veloz de la época.


https://s23.postimg.cc/rs7rx9aq3/Yum_s.jpg
Yum 1898

https://s28.postimg.cc/i1huh1kq5/PD_s.jpg
Pen Duick ex-Yum © François Chevalier

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EddSail 06-01-2017 14:00

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Puro arte flotante!:cid5:

Xinanhook 20-05-2018 13:37

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Enlaces de las fotos actualizados! ;)
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iperkeno 20-05-2018 18:03

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Originalmente publicado por Xinanhook (Mensaje 1972505)


¡Qué enorme número de compradores/restauradores con mucha pasta debe haber para poder disponer de gente joven operaria con tan primorosa formación artesanal!


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trinchatripas 20-05-2018 19:26

Re: Una belleza... International 8-meter class - Defender
 
Seguramente toda esta gente no solo trabaja en estas construcciones por dinero, creo que hay que tener una gran pasión por estos barcos, tanto por los constructores como por aquellos que los encargan.
Además solo hay que fijarse en el astillero, más sencillo y humilde no puede ser. Una delicia en todos los aspectos.

DANI3 20-05-2018 20:14

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Una bellezon!! :pirata:

Dr. Maturin 20-05-2018 20:19

Una belleza... International 8-meter class - Defender
 
Citando al filósofo ... Im-prezionante


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iperkeno 21-05-2018 13:57

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Originalmente publicado por trinchatripas (Mensaje 2109722)
Seguramente toda esta gente no solo trabaja en estas construcciones por dinero, creo que hay que tener una gran pasión por estos barcos, tanto por los constructores como por aquellos que los encargan.
Además solo hay que fijarse en el astillero, más sencillo y humilde no puede ser. Una delicia en todos los aspectos.

No creo, parece un astillero profesional mas dedicado, eso si, a restauraciones que a obra nueva.

Pero tienes razón en cuanto que, en los USA, hay muuuuchos voluntarios con mucho conocimiento del tema que mantienen en funcionamiento desde líneas de ferrocarril a vapor a ciudades astillero del siglo XIX (como Mistic) con sus cordelerías, fábricas de velas, astilleros, herrerías, etc, todas ellas en funcionamiento al menos los fines de semana...

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