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Ya comente ese tema hace tiempo y es cierto.

Aqui hable de ello http://foro.latabernadelpuerto.com/s...72#post1639872

Aqui tambien esta la noticia http://www.kpca.org.uk/events/s2010/2010Polbream.html

Aqui hay un foro muy largo con gente que fue a ver el barco http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread...fe-boats/page2
Esta es la version de uno que iba a bordo cuando descubrieron que no tenia quilla

heres the version from onboard the keel-less boat, Polbream... a very nice skipper takes 4 complete novices, three of whom had never been on a yacht before, and one who had not been on one for about 26 years...and only then as a child. Skipper goes through all safety sfuff...we check the bilges and keel bolts all appear perfectly normal to skipper...we wouldnt have known if they were normal or not, but all four bolts are in place (from bilge side) and feel secure - wont move. After a good discussion as to our experiences and expectations, we leave the pontoon....skipper comments that boat handles badly, but he never been on this type before, so nobody thought any more of it. We headed over to the helford to pick up a mooring....we had main sail and genoa fully out, I'm afraid I cant remember the wind direction or strength, but it was less than the next day (F5 gusting 6), not much happening wind wise, so we motor into the Helford, no spare moorings, so we raft up to another boat, who we have a 'little bump' with, skippers have a chat, we novices raise our eyebrows and question who we have come sailing with (jokingly)....we make our evening meal, have a discussion about charts and navigation and a generally nice evening. Following morning, we have breakfast, our skipper and one next door have a chat about leaving the mooring, we leave, skipper motors round in a circle to demonstrate the poor handling of the boat...discssion continues about possible net around keel or rudder, we all nod on in agreeable ignorance. We head back out into the bay and skipper hands over helm to me, others get sails up main and genoa, 2 reefs, wind F5 gusting 6, I have a go at tacking and gybing...boat handles like ****e....but had no comparison at time, although specifically recalled my live aboard mum explaining that these boats are like 'bathtubs', hence I see no concern...until we broach...other newbies looking on with somewhat more fear, but no-one really knows that this isnt normal other than the skipper, who presumably was keeping us from panicing by saying nothing, and going below to get his phone. My instincts were that this wasnt right, but having not sailed since I was about 10 (other than a stetch type 22 frigate, but clearly doesnt offer a comparison). My instincts from windsurfing (again as a child) were to let the sails out...but as the skipper didnt suggest this neither did I. So I sailed into the wind (again must have been some childhood remnant of windsurfing) and we righted. Another strong gust and over we go again...this time I have to let go of the helm with one hand in order to stay in th boat. turn into thewind and request skipper takes the helm...he says you are doing fine, keep going and goes below to use phone. He comes back up when only gets answerphone message from office, and says he will call mobile number. All the time, I want to get the hell off the water...or at least get the sails down so we do not broach again. Skipper comes up having got hold of boss and says we will go into pontoon, for investigation. We get sails down...AT LAST..and motor in, skipper takes helm to birth against fuelling pontoon. Not the easiest of birthings, so he asks for working boat to take us to birth...working boat ties up to us and attempts to get us to birth. Skipper of working boat says he's struggling to manouver us, but after a few scrapes we get into birth. Some other guy come over and says 'shes not sitting right in the water' and skipper rom working boat walks round to pontoon behind us and says 'shes about 2 foot too high in the water'. Owner of CC comes to boat and suggests its a rudder problem. Our skipper says he thinks it more than that, a camera is rigged up to have a look, but battery flat...off it goes to be charged. 30 mins later it comes back but is not working. We are offered another boat to go out on, and decide to do this but keep all our provisions onboard Polbream and sleep there rather than waste more time moving everything. I personally felt that if I hadnt got out onto the water when we did, I probably never would have gone out again...get back on before you have time to think too much. So off we go, this time on a benetau oceanis clipper 331. Comparatively speaking, she handles like a dream, and my fears tha my helmsmanship isnt 'completely **** and causing us to broach' are somewhat alleviated. We have a great day, spend the night on Polbream, and next morning go out on oceanis again. We arrive back and find Polbream in slings...completely keel-less. I have to admit I was somewhat relieved that there was a problem, and it wasnt just my driving lol
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