El barco que iba acomprar tiene osmosis-Y ahora que hago?

[fepofe]

Unos tintos de verano al personal. Como continuacion de mi hilo sobre el falcon 35 que cuasi me he comprado, la inspeccion del perito previa a la compra a revelado, entre otras cosas, osmosis en el casco y timon . Me gustaria el consejo de cofrades expertos, que los hay. Y ahora que hago? Cuan malo es el problema? Le pido un descuento sustancial? Me olvido del tema?Lo compro con los bultitos?:
(texto en ingles, lo siento por los que sean francoparlantes como segunda lengua)
"Blisters were visible throughout the underwater area of the hull and when sample sections of the anti-fouling paint were removed, the blisters were seen to be in the gel coat, not the anti-fouling paint. The blisters were of three different types. There were circular, classic osmotic blisters, up to around 12mm in diameter. They had developed in the first or second layer of glass fibre reinforcement below the gel coat and contained a small amount of acidic liquid, with a pH value of 2, as measured with pH paper.
Blisters on a GRP hull of this age are not unusual. In this case, the vessel is understood to have spent some time in the Mediterranean and latter years at Foleux. Both the warmer water of the Mediterranean and the fresh water at Foleux are known to accelerate therate of water ingress into a GRP hull and result in the development of blisters. The underwater area of the hull was otherwise in sound condition, with no evidence of structural damage showing through from beneath the layer of paint. The hull was sounded with a hammer and no evidence was detected of any significant voids, delamination or deterioration of the laminate. It is however inevitable that the water ingress will have resulted in some deterioration and to prevent further deterioration, remedial work will be needed in due course.Moisture readings were taken using a Sovereign electronic moisture meter. In common with other meters, it does not measure the actual percentage of water within the hull, but indicates the presence of moisture on a comparative scale of 0 - 25. This scale equates
to approximate moisture content, where 25 equals about 2% of water, measured as a percentage of weight. Figures of 2-5 are normally considered “dry” and up to 15 acceptable, but over 15 blisters are more likely to develop. Where the sample sections of anti-fouling paint were removed, the meter registered between 18 and 22, which confirms there has been significant water ingress. These compare with readings of 3 - 4 above the waterline."

[RESACADOS]

Originalmente publicado por fepofe

Unos tintos de verano al personal. Como continuacion de mi hilo sobre el falcon 35 que cuasi me he comprado, la inspeccion del perito previa a la compra a revelado, entre otras cosas, osmosis en el casco y timon . Me gustaria el consejo de cofrades expertos, que los hay. Y ahora que hago? Cuan malo es el problema? Le pido un descuento sustancial? Me olvido del tema?Lo compro con los bultitos?:
(texto en ingles, lo siento por los que sean francoparlantes como segunda lengua)
"Blisters were visible throughout the underwater area of the hull and when sample sections of the anti-fouling paint were removed, the blisters were seen to be in the gel coat, not the anti-fouling paint. The blisters were of three different types. There were circular, classic osmotic blisters, up to around 12mm in diameter. They had developed in the first or second layer of glass fibre reinforcement below the gel coat and contained a small amount of acidic liquid, with a pH value of 2, as measured with pH paper.
Blisters on a GRP hull of this age are not unusual. In this case, the vessel is understood to have spent some time in the Mediterranean and latter years at Foleux. Both the warmer water of the Mediterranean and the fresh water at Foleux are known to accelerate therate of water ingress into a GRP hull and result in the development of blisters. The underwater area of the hull was otherwise in sound condition, with no evidence of structural damage showing through from beneath the layer of paint. The hull was sounded with a hammer and no evidence was detected of any significant voids, delamination or deterioration of the laminate. It is however inevitable that the water ingress will have resulted in some deterioration and to prevent further deterioration, remedial work will be needed in due course.Moisture readings were taken using a Sovereign electronic moisture meter. In common with other meters, it does not measure the actual percentage of water within the hull, but indicates the presence of moisture on a comparative scale of 0 - 25. This scale equates
to approximate moisture content, where 25 equals about 2% of water, measured as a percentage of weight. Figures of 2-5 are normally considered “dry” and up to 15 acceptable, but over 15 blisters are more likely to develop. Where the sample sections of anti-fouling paint were removed, the meter registered between 18 and 22, which confirms there has been significant water ingress. These compare with readings of 3 - 4 above the waterline."

Buenas tardes, a mi me pasó igual en mi primer barco, llamé a un experto en fibra, valoró la reparación, pelado del casco, enfibrado y todo lo que conlleva, y se descontó del precio.El barco ya no lo tengo, pero han pasado once años y sigue bien.Saludos

[Polcany]

Originalmente publicado por fepofe

Unos tintos de verano al personal. Como continuacion de mi hilo sobre el falcon 35 que cuasi me he comprado, la inspeccion del perito previa a la compra a revelado, entre otras cosas, osmosis en el casco y timon . Me gustaria el consejo de cofrades expertos, que los hay. Y ahora que hago? Cuan malo es el problema? Le pido un descuento sustancial? Me olvido del tema?Lo compro con los bultitos?:
(texto en ingles, lo siento por los que sean francoparlantes como segunda lengua)
"Blisters were visible throughout the underwater area of the hull and when sample sections of the anti-fouling paint were removed, the blisters were seen to be in the gel coat, not the anti-fouling paint. The blisters were of three different types. There were circular, classic osmotic blisters, up to around 12mm in diameter. They had developed in the first or second layer of glass fibre reinforcement below the gel coat and contained a small amount of acidic liquid, with a pH value of 2, as measured with pH paper.
Blisters on a GRP hull of this age are not unusual. In this case, the vessel is understood to have spent some time in the Mediterranean and latter years at Foleux. Both the warmer water of the Mediterranean and the fresh water at Foleux are known to accelerate therate of water ingress into a GRP hull and result in the development of blisters. The underwater area of the hull was otherwise in sound condition, with no evidence of structural damage showing through from beneath the layer of paint. The hull was sounded with a hammer and no evidence was detected of any significant voids, delamination or deterioration of the laminate. It is however inevitable that the water ingress will have resulted in some deterioration and to prevent further deterioration, remedial work will be needed in due course.Moisture readings were taken using a Sovereign electronic moisture meter. In common with other meters, it does not measure the actual percentage of water within the hull, but indicates the presence of moisture on a comparative scale of 0 - 25. This scale equates
to approximate moisture content, where 25 equals about 2% of water, measured as a percentage of weight. Figures of 2-5 are normally considered “dry” and up to 15 acceptable, but over 15 blisters are more likely to develop. Where the sample sections of anti-fouling paint were removed, the meter registered between 18 and 22, which confirms there has been significant water ingress. These compare with readings of 3 - 4 above the waterline."

Si te traduciría el contexto lo demás cofrades se darían cuenta que te has dedicado mas a los giris que a los mismo españoles por eso mismo como das mas detalles a los inglish parlante que respondan ellos

Un saludo y muchas rondas

[fepofe]

Originalmente publicado por Polcany

Si te traduciría el contexto lo demás cofrades se darían cuenta que te has dedicado mas a los giris que a los mismo españoles por eso mismo como das mas detalles a los inglish parlante que respondan ellos

Un saludo y muchas rondas

Te lo traduzco:
[Las ampollas son visibles en toda la obra viva del casco y cuando se eliminaron secciones de antifouling, las ampollas se ve que son en la capa de gel, no en el antifouling. Las ampollas son de tres tipos diferentes. Circulares, ampollas osmóticas clásicas, hasta alrededor de 12 mm de diámetro. Estas se han desarrollado en la primera o segunda capa de refuerzo de fibra de vidrio por debajo de la capa de gel y contienen una pequeña cantidad de líquido ácido, con un valor de pH de 2, tal como se mide con papel de pH. Ampollas en un casco de GRP de esta edad no son inusuales. En este caso, el buque se entiende que ha pasado algún tiempo en el mediterraneo y en Foleux. Tanto las agua dulce. El agua más cálida del Mediterráneo y el agua dulce en Foleux son conocidos para acelerar la tasa de entrada de agua en un casco de GRP y el resultado en el desarrollo de ampollas. La zona sumergida del casco no presenta daño estructural, huecos significativos, deslaminación o deterioro del laminado. Sin embargo, es inevitable que la entrada de agua se traduzca en un deterioro y para evitar un mayor deterioro, se requerirá trabajos de reparación. Las lecturas fueron tomadas con un medidor de humedad electrónico Sovereign. En común con otros aparatos, no mide el porcentaje real de agua en el casco, sino que indica la presencia de humedad en una escala comparativa de 0 - 25. Esta escala equivale al contenido de humedad aproximado, donde 25 es igual a aproximadamente el 2% de agua, medida como un porcentaje del peso. Las cifras de 2-5 se consideran normalmente "en seco" y hasta 15 aceptable, pero más de 15, supone que las ampollas son más propensas a desarrollarse. Cuando se retiraron las secciones de antifouling, se registraron lecturas entre 18 y 22, lo que confirma que ha habido una entrada de agua importante. Las lecturas por encima de la línea de flotación fueron de 3-4

[dunic]

Si el barco es lo que buscabas , pide presupuesto y descuentalo del precio
Bien reparado te durara añossssss

[BORRASCA]

Busca y compra otro sin osmosis

[MERIT]

Que un experto te diga cuanto te costara y que garantía te da, lo normal es que sea perfectamente reparable y no te acabes el barco en tu vida, con los cuidados adecuados.
Llegas a un acuerdo justo con el vendedor y a navegar con tu barco prefererido, pero tres meses no podrás disponer de el mientras te hagan el tratamiento.

[arden]

Si es lo que buscas, y a raiz del informe te ajustan el precio adelante
Yo lo disfrutaba el verano y lo repararia en septiembre

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