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Es cierto esto?
´Pretenden cerrar el canal a los veleros http://www.fondear.org/Noticias/Noti...IDNoticia=1360 Alguien tiene mas informacion del asunto Roncitos para todos |
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Estimado tabernario:
A ver si esto aclara algo es una regulacion de noviembre de 2008, algun experto traductor, podria aclarar algo a. The Regulation on Navigation in Panama Canal Waters, Chapter IV, General and Specific Provisions Regarding Vessels, Section Seventeen, Article 81, establishes the legal framework that regulates the navigation of small craft that do not transit and empowers the Panama Canal Authority, through the Operations Department, to dictate the requirements to enforce this regulation. b. Rule 36, Article 108, Chapter VIII of the Annex of this same Regulation on Navigation, establishes the norms related to small craft that are not transiting. c. Through this Notice to Shipping, the Panama Canal Authority establishes the requirements and norms that must be followed in order to operate small craft of less than 20 meters (65 feet) in length for commercial or non-commercial activities in Panama Canal waters. This will help to improve the navigation in Canal waters, reduce the risk of accidents, and contribute to the safe navigation of others vessels transiting the Canal. The areas to be dedicated to these commercial and non-commercial activities are described in this document. 3. Reminder on applicable rules and regulations in Canal waters a. Recent complaints have been raised regarding small craft entering and navigating in Panama Canal waters, in such a manner that shows total disregard for the safety of other vessels, as well as their own. The Canal reminds all operators and owners of small craft, marinas and yacht clubs of the rules and regulations applicable to small craft each and every time they enter and navigate within Panama Canal waters. It has been reported that these small craft are either not equipped with VHF radios or are failing to monitor Channel 12 and 16, as required, and possibly disregarding instructions given by ACP’s Port Entry Coordinators at the Signal Stations. The Maritime Regulations for the Operation of the Panama Canal, specifically Chapter 10, Maritime Safety Offenses, Section 2, Article 149, paragraph 5, identifies as an offense, “Failure to comply with the regulations, orders, or instructions issued by the Authority in relation to maritime operations in Canal areas.” Also, paragraph 8 of the same regulation identifies as an offense, “Failure to comply with Authority rules or instructions on the transit of and provisions on small crafts, including vessels for recreational or other purposes, and on the use of any devices, equipment, or gear which may imply a risk to navigation in Canal waters.” Be advised that these offenses are subject to possible sanctions. Article 150 of the same regulation states: “When the administrative offense may be considered a criminal offense, the case shall be referred to the competent authorities,” and Article 151 states: “The following sanctions shall be imposed for offenses, according to their seriousness: (1) Non-serious offenses: fines of one hundred Balboas, to ten thousand Balboas (B/.100.00 to B/.10,000.00). (2) Serious offenses: fines of ten thousand and one Balboas to one hundred thousand Balboas (B/.10,001.00 to B/.100,000.00). (3) Very serious offenses: fines of one hundred thousand and one Balboas to one million Balboas (B/.100,001.00 to B/.1,000,000.00).” b. Panama Canal regulations also indicate that: “small craft shall not be operated in the proximity of or cross in front of transiting vessels. Additionally, small craft shall not navigate at a speed or produce a wake that would endanger their safety, as well as the safety, lives and property of others in the area, including the Panama Canal Authority. Failure to adhere to this or any other regulation will be punishable with the immediate revocation of the license issued to the operator and/or the operation permit and the applicable sanctions will be imposed.” Therefore, it is imperative for yacht clubs and marinas to notify their members, as well as for yacht owners and operators, to be aware of these rules and regulations, and the implications for lack of compliance. Additionally, the navigational and adjacent waters of the Panama Canal were designed and delineated in order to guarantee the safe transit of vessels through the waterway. The efficiency of transit operations requires transiting vessels, as well as Panama Canal Authority floating equipment, to comply with strict schedules and to navigate under coordination with ACP Transit Control. These vessels may create swells or wakes that may directly or indirectly affect small craft or physical installations located on the shores of the Canal. The concessionaire that chooses to operate in these waters or have installations on these shores must be aware and anticipate these risks. Additionally, they must be aware that Canal operations shall not be affected in order to accommodate other activities not directly related to the transiting of vessels. Installations located within Canal waters or on Canal shores, including recreational activities (marinas, clubs and ramps), of commercial type or public interest, must not, in any way, interfere with Canal operations. Therefore, all owners and operators of installations located within Canal waters or on Canal shores must incorporate into their structural designs the proper protection against the effects of swells or wakes that may be created by transiting vessels or ACP floating equipment. By reason of the type of operations performed by the Panama Canal Authority in Canal waters, the ACP will not assume any responsibility for damages to these installations or properties of third parties. Anyone operating any vessel in Canal waters, particularly small craft without ACP pilots, is hereby reminded of their obligation to comply with ACP maritime regulations, as well as with Advisories and Notices to Shipping. Failure to comply will result in sanctions that may include a prohibition for the craft to operate in Canal waters. ORIGINAL SIGNED Manuel E. Benítez Executive Vice President of Operations mas informacion en http://www.pancanal.com/esp/maritime/notices/index.html manolo g. ...........en un mar de olivos
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He repetido hilo....
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lo que yo interpreto es que quieren regular el acceso a aguas del canal dado que hay marinas en ambas entradas y las pequenias embarcaciones se meten en la zona de transito sin ir equipadas con radios, interfiriendo el trafico de barcos grandes con poca capacidad de maniobra, no que lo cierren
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SALUD!He entendido lo siguiente para barcos de menos de 65 pies, dando igual si es comercial ó recreativo: Las Autoridades Canal Panamá ACP, han impuesto unas reglas que les da derecho a sancionar como pena criminal, distintos niveles de gravedad en su incumlimiento, con la multa correspondiente en aumento, incluso, denegar el permiso para cruzar. Es una respuesta reciente a su descontento y quejas recibidas, de la actuación de algunos barcos que ponen en peligro el tráfico, interfieren el VHF, etc. Se han cargado parte de la marina de yates, con la excusa de una ampliación. No se puede parar ni fondear antes de pasar ni para hacer los papeles. Tampoco les será lo mas rentable. De paso se quitan una molestia. Nada de eso pasa, si contratas sus servicios y lleva tu barco uno de sus prácticos. Estamos en sus manos, son las leyes que interpretará como quiera, la persona con la que das y no hay mas: a pagar justos por pecadores. A pagar que es de lo que se trata. Un mundo cada vez mas cerrado. ¿Queda algo de la "ancha mar"? ó es que siempre ha estado tan lleno de piratas legales e ilegales. Unos buenos tragos y a esperar que estas medidas extremas, se suavicen. Editado por ARROIN en 14-04-2009 a las 23:44. |
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'amo a ve:
1-el Canal de Panamá está en pleno proceso de ampliación (los barcos actuales ya empiezan a no caber. El incremento de tamaño está inducido por un intento de "saltarse" el Canal para evitar las tasas). 2-las quejas que se mencionan, y que sirven como argumento para las "restricciones", son: a- un "mal uso" (ignorancia) del Protocolo de Comunicaciones, fundamentalmente en VHF (os suena...? )b- un "mal uso" (ignorancia) del RIPA (os suena esto también...? )Así que a mí particularmente no me extraña nada el comunicado... Saludos
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..aquí estan las tasas de practicaje..
![]() http://www.pancanal.com/esp/maritime...60-0000.fp.swf ..sinceramente espero que haya una tarifa especial, por que si no.. sale por un pico.. ..creo entender que sale a unos 300$ la hora.. ..y hay que darles de comer.. http://www.pancanal.com/esp/maritime...70-0000.fp.swf ..debe ser que lo recalcan por que habrá capitanes tan bestias que ni eso.. ![]() ..bueno.. y siempre nos quedará la Ruta Norte.. ![]() |
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No se que pasa, lo raro es que hay mas marinas en Panama, y no como dice el articulo una sola, uno en un hotel, creo que no tiene calado para veleros pero si para otra tipo de embarcaciones, otra la del un club tiene dos partes muy diferrenciadas, una no da a la entrada del canal,la otra si creo que se demolio esta, que era para lo barcos de paso. Ya habia problemas, lo 6 nudos que habitualmente puede desarollar un velero, no eran considerados suficientes y decian que debian pasarse a 8. Lo cual excluia a la mayoria de ellos. Panama trabaja para hacer un segundo cana mas ancho, y dejarian el antiguo para embarcaciones deportivas. Pero no se olviden que ese pais vive de eso, es su unico ingreso importante, no podemos condenarlo si no quiere embarcaciones lentas. Lo de las tarifas es mas que entendible, imaginense lo que perderia si pondria tarifas accesible para navegacion deportiva, para mi y no es de ahora siempre fue una inconveniente cruzar el canal.
No puedo seguir explicando mas, pues de seguro cerran el post, tengo que nombrar paises y gobiernos que no se pueden nombrar, pues parece que la geografia ahora es parte de la politica y seguro que me diran que este tampoco es un tema nautico. Pero para los que pueden entender, el problema viene por ese lado. |
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Guillermo e Isabel (del TinTin) están ahora en Coco Bandero precisamente esperando para pasar el canal.
Les dieron, eso si, tres meses para de espera para pasar, pero no han tenido más problemas que yo sepa. Como están próximos al pase del canal, les preguntaré a ver si saben algo del tema. Salu2. Carmelo ( O L A J E ) ![]()
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