Electrónica Weather routing a lo barato

[Tupac A.]

No habia descubierto esto. Interesantisimo.
Gracias, Tropelio.
Thank you, Maitai.

[maitai]

FYI, after many months of work, qtVlm is now also available on Android (google playstore)

[Bob]

Que chulo, nunca había abierto este hilo, me encanta el programa. Gracias

[maitai]

qtVlm 5.0.12 has been released for Android, Mac/OS, Windows and Linux.

Installation for Linux is now made through an installation package.

Many changes, including a better and faster routing module, anchor alarm, etc.

Fair winds to all
Philippe.

Originalmente publicado por maitai

qtVlm 5.0.12 has been released for Android, Mac/OS, Windows and Linux.

Installation for Linux is now made through an installation package.

Many changes, including a better and faster routing module, anchor alarm, etc.

Fair winds to all
Philippe.

Lo siento pero el paquete de Linux no me funcionó. Tuve que compilarlo por mi mismo para Ubuntu 15.04. Pero la versión no es la actual.

Gracias de todos modos.

I 'm sorry but the Linux package don't worked for me. I had to build it by myself for Ubuntu vivid 15.04, but...... It says (downloaded from svn://svn.code.sf.net/p/qtvlm/code/trunk) ist version 3.4-4-patch1+.

Where is the source code for 5.0.12?

Thanks anyway. Merci quand même.

[maitai]

Hello,

We do not publish our sources anymore, because it also contains all our work for the Android version which we don't want to make public.

We will see what we can do for your linux version, and come back to you

Originalmente publicado por maitai

Hello,

We do not publish our sources anymore, because it also contains all our work for the Android version which we don't want to make public.

We will see what we can do for your linux version, and come back to you

So..... now it is not open source anymore?

Entonces... ¿ya no es de código abierto?

Pues eso parece, Sr. pinguino, ya no es open source any more. Y no me gusta nada como caza la perrita, como decía mi tía Clementina, que era una mujer muy sabia: resulta que algunos colaboramos con ese programa precisamente porque era código abierto. En mi caso, colaboré traduciéndolo al español. Y ahora resulta que ya no es de código abierto. No es una polítca aceptable esta. Si un programa empieza abierto y en él colabora gente desinteresadamente, debe permanecer abierto.

En fin, lamentable.

Tropelio

Es cierto Tropelio. Aún así hay que agradecerle a Philippe que al menos lo pone a nuestra disposición gratuitamente.

El problema es, como siempre, que con el código cerrado nos volvemos esclavos del que crea los binarios.

Este caso es un ejemplo clarísimo pues el binario cedido no me funciona y eso hace que quede en desventaja frente a otros usuarios que si lo pueden disfrutar.

Ok, Philippe se ofrece a echarme una mano, y se agradece. Pero mientras el no mueva ficha yo seguiré atrapado en la antigua versión. Y el tendrá que ir entregándome compilaciones varias hasta dar (o no) con la que me funciona. Justo el tipo de cosas de las que uno prefiere huir.

También es cierto que todo el mundo tiene derecho a monetizar sus creaciones. Pero si es el caso de que otros han colaborado estaría bien compartir algo esos resultados... por un sentido de la justicia.

[maitai]

Please note that the PC versions are still 100% free. Porting to Android was a huge task, that was not free too. It's not open-source anymore due to that. The 344 version is still open-source.

I will remove the spanish translation from the 5.0 serie, no problem.

Originalmente publicado por maitai

Please note that the PC versions are still 100% free. Porting to Android was a huge task, that was not free too. It's not open-source anymore due to that. The 344 version is still open-source.

I will remove the spanish translation from the 5.0 serie, no problem.

No maitai, that is NOT enough. It is not fair play what you have done. But I do not want to discuss this issue any further.

Tropelio

Originalmente publicado por maitai

Hello,

We do not publish our sources anymore, because it also contains all our work for the Android version which we don't want to make public.

We will see what we can do for your linux version, and come back to you

I try it again in 32 bit Ubuntu vivid, and it works ok. It seems that the issue is 64 bit versión.

[Capitanlanmar]

With all my respect to your work, and my best wishes for your success on the android program, I agree a 100% with Tropelio. I don't want to see things happening this way. Looks like "opensource" image is used as a marketing strategy to get a good user base, and then after a while...

Start from the beginning as commercial software or shareware and do what you want with it.

The problem is that I would have never spent time learning to use your program.

You have "used" us as beta testers and in some case (as tropelio) as collaborators without our consent for a commercial venture. Simply not fair.
Good luck. I'm starting to like the Opencpn weather routing plugin.

Originalmente publicado por Capitanlanmar

With all my respect to your work, and my best wishes for your success on the android program, I agree a 100% with Tropelio. I don't want to see things happening this way. Looks like "opensource" image is used as a marketing strategy to get a good user base, and then after a while...

Start from the beginning as commercial software or shareware and do what you want with it.

The problem is that I would have never spent time learning to use your program.

You have "used" us as beta testers and in some case (as tropelio) as collaborators without our consent for a commercial venture. Simply not fair.
Good luck. I'm starting to like the Opencpn weather routing plugin.

It could be said louder, but not clearer....

Tropelio

It seems to be still under GPLv2.

Maybe I'm wrong?

[maitai]

Sorry that you feel like that.

I didn't use anyone, and the idea of the spanish translation was not mine, I was just trying to help not to fool anyone.

I have removed the spanish translation from the package...

qtVlm 5 might return to open source one day, but not now.

qtVlm 3.4.4 is open source... It all depend on people willing to continue to develop it, as it should.

I didn't expect that posting to propose a free product would end up in being treated like that.... anyway.

@pinguino we will post a 64bits package as soon as possible.

Fair winds to all.
Philippe.

[sailoog.com]

Originalmente publicado por maitai

Sorry that you feel like that.

I didn't use anyone, and the idea of the spanish translation was not mine, I was just trying to help not to fool anyone.

I have removed the spanish translation from the package...

qtVlm 5 might return to open source one day, but not now.

qtVlm 3.4.4 is open source... It all depend on people willing to continue to develop it, as it should.

I didn't expect that posting to propose a free product would end up in being treated like that.... anyway.

@pinguino we will post a 64bits package as soon as possible.

Fair winds to all.
Philippe.

I dont like your decision but you are in your right to do it. However I think it is a big mistake because you could find some ways to monetize your work keeping it opened instead of closing it. As you know, free software does not always means "gratis" software.

It is a pity but anyway I wish you luck in your new field. I think proprietary software is not as rewarding as free software in any case.

I am working in a project involving zyGrib and I would like to know if you are planning to turn it into proprietary software too in order to start searching alternatives. Thanks.

[Empecinado]

Originalmente publicado por sailoog.com

I dont like your decision but you are in your right to do it. However I think it is a big mistake because you could find some ways to monetize your work keeping it opened instead of closing it. As you know, free software does not always means "gratis" software.

It is a pity but anyway I wish you luck in your new field. I think proprietary software is not as rewarding as free software in any case.

I am working in a project involving zyGrib and I would like to know if you are planning to turn it into proprietary software too in order to start searching alternatives. Thanks.

Actually, that is completely wrong... he is not in his right to do so.

Once a software has a license, everybody is legally bound to adhere to the rules specified by it. In the case of GPLv2 here is a summary :

https://tldrlegal.com/license/gnu-ge...lic-license-v2

Short answer:

* If version 3.X was GPLv2 then version 5.X is GPLv2 by defaullt. You are not allowed to sublicense, unlicense the GPL license. It's sticky!
* Commercialization is allowed. Meaning you can distribute binary packages and charge for it. No problem there. Free as in fredoom, not free beer.
* Disclosing the source is mandatory. This means that whenever you make a binary distribution available (free or paid) you are bound by the GPL license to hand over the code with it.
* Anybody can grab that source and modify/distribute it as long as it recognizes the source of it.

So it's a pitty that you are "close sourcing" the code for it, as you are not allowed to do so.

You gave it away to the world, sorry if you regret that.

Few, this is a lovely post to start off in a new forum!

Best Regards everybody!